Read this if opening a Cryosauna Clinic (or cryo chamber for those not wanting direct nitrogen)
So many cryosauna clinics are opening up right now during the fad. I can see this as a 10 year run until the market is saturated and then it becomes cheaper and these machines go down in price just everything does in the health industry.
The biggest decision a cryosauna clinic owner needs to make is knowing if they want a cryosauna with direct nitrogen or the non-direct type like the Artic or just an electrical cryo chamber that has no nitrogen at all. For certain reasons for using a cryosana, an indirect nitrogen type like the Artic can be helpful for someone while for someone doing lipolysis of fat might want something like a super high fluence Juka.
Most people come in for sessions for inflammation and the 2nd most popular reason is for weight loss to burn 500+ calories after the session. Note: if people don't come in continuously when doing weight loss and skip daily sessions it can stop the metabolic process that was sped up. So, the cryo chambers that are not direct-nitrogen contact will not get that fight or flight response and will not help with weight loss and I don't care what they say. This is the only time an unlimited monthly membership is the most valuable to people.
It really pisses me off when customers are sold a montly membership for arthritis when continuous daily session are not needed. Also burning calories is from the boosted metabolism being maintained over however long to burn the calories they want to burn, not from working out. Lazy people love this!
For the clinics that focus on cryosaunas for weight loss, I urge them to get a lymphatic machine such as vibration plate. For those that want to exercise I do not recommend recumbent bikes or any type of bike as the first choice. This is about lipolysis, not burning calories after the cryosauna session.
The super high fluence cryosaunas can get people into that fight or flight response only if blood goes to the core. During the session, the body releases endorphins, which are hormones that make the person feel happy and energetic. The effects from each session can last at least 6-8 hours, but like any therapy I always ask about which ones give the affects less than 6 hours and which give 8+ hours and what are the reasons for that. The Juka always gives me the highest rush but sometimes I want to get an Artic session when I don't want that fight or flight energy.
Note: if the session does not have enough fluence it will not put the person in this survival mode. The person will know if the endorphins were released and when they weren't. For an even bigger rush I have an o2 concentrator and bring my pulse oximeter in and get my blood oxygen levels up even higher. Those that have their oxygen level at this rate know what I'm talking about. Going in for the cryosauna session at max blood oxygen level is a game changer.
Note: many customer have pain. Sometimes, I recommend a localized cryotherapy machine like the Penguin or Kriosan or a T Elephant (I can get all three). The Penguin is the most expensive but the Kriosan is also good and much more affordable. (its portable too unlike the others).
I have seen a trend where most clinics fail and the clinic owners rush into getting the business started and don't have the right foundation. They see some other location making tons of money and they want to get in on it and start advertising and soon get those customers. Some places have to go the Groupon route and others have clientele and never get their customers from Living Social or Groupon. One way gets quick money and one gets long term money if done right.
Customer service usually sucks at least at most of the clinics I've been to. They don't know anything but only to turn the cryosauna on and off and tell me where the foot stool is. Rarely they are engaged the entire session. And even if they are with me the entire session they are texting someone on the phone. They can't answer a single question I ask. I urge people to walk out if they get a technician like this and demand their money back.
I always check to see how many bikes or vibration machines they have. I nee to stay on a vibration machine at least 20 minutes after my session. If there clinic was really high traffic there would not be only just one in there.
Most of the start up cryosauna clinics don't have prime real estate space. There is no visability. They are on the 10th floor in a high rise. The most profitable places have the entire street watching through the window.
The nitrogen costs can vary from city to city. It is much cheaper, like 40% cheaper to get a 3000 liter tank. Some companies have a higher insurance requirement and some don't. The cryotherapy place must spend more on liability insurance to satisfy the insurance requirement (liabiity).
Repeat customers is the biggest challenge in places where many cryosauna clinics are competing. Most customers never engage with technicians that have knowledge. I know this is not a medical procedure but it needs to be treated like one. Rarely do they have my records as each time I go in there is another technician that has no idea about my history. People come in for a 2nd or 3rd session and it gets worse from there. The first session is never the session to judge a clinic. I always give it at least 3 sessions to see if the clinic is good or not. Sometimes I do get a first time session and they ask me about my health needs but the 2nd time I go they don't reference it. Probably just trying to be friendly to sell me a package on my first visit. Rarely, do the 2nd and third session going forward do they ever pull out any notes. They just check how many sessions I have left to redeem in my package.
The clinics I've experienced that charge the most usually start good relationships with their customers and have full engagements. Their employees are like motivational coaches. They cheer people on. Some of the best cryosauna clinics have technicians that engage from when they walk in to the entire time they are on the vibratin plate or bike.
Also, another thing..(also I am writing this late at night so there is not polished editing so bear with me on all this)...
Most clinics don't have the best space planning. They don't plan for enough changing rooms and the business gets tied up when people are waiting for changing rooms. The clinics that only have 1 or 2 changing rooms are the ones that also fail the most. No one really gets 4 changing rooms when first starting because they don't know if they will ever get that big.
Some cryosauna businesses, usually new ones, try to sell either a membership that is good for unlimited sessions or a membership to use their cryosaunas at a discounted rate. Many clinics try to sell a unlimited membership to someone with arthritis and don't get repeat business. Some try to sell unlimited sessions to someone that is using it for weight loss but they don't have what it takes to keep that person a repeat customer for maintenance sessions. Note: A huge percentage of recurring income steams are from services not related to going in the cryosauna. Unlimited monthly is becoming more popular if people are signing up for at least a 3 month minimum. Most people use it every day the first month and every other day the 2nd month and every 3rd day on the 3rd month. Usually they will renew it. Those that have valued added (free services) usually get that repeat business after the third month.
Also picking out nitrogen vendors can be a challenge. There is usually 3 in each area where someone is starting up a clinic. I urge people to get 3 estimates. Usually prices are off by 65 to 180 dollars depending on who the clinic goes with. Very remote areas will pay much more. (glad I remembered supply chain economics in college). The NYC clinics can charge the most. I know this as this is where I did most of my reviews. It can be tricky for a new business to pick out the right nitrogen vendor. Cryosauna clinic owners might also want to take into consideration the insurance, delivery charges, and monthly tank rental fees. These a few of things that new cryosauna clinic owners don't consider.
For those considering a new cryosauna clinic, I can help with any of the issues I see with starting a cryosauna clinic in your area. There are cities where people want to start a clinic and I know 100% that their location or type of cryosauna will make the clinic fail in the end. I can answer questions in detail about any cryosauna or cryochamber.
Please use my contact form as your first contact with me and let me know times when you are available.
Air/Water Evaporators - for those that don't want to use nitrogen - Read the pros and cons of this type
Nitrogen type cryosaunas - for those that don't want to get a lower temperature than the air/water evaporator types - Read the pros and cons of this type vs evaporator types.
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Question I get asked:
One cryosauna goes to -236 and the other goes to -295. So, which one is going to be more therapeutic.
For those that have compared the main cryosauna brands it is easy to know but for those that haven't compared the different ones, I will say that the Juka has the highest density cloud. It feels colder than even the cryosaunas that get way colder. Juka has the highest fluence of all and no one has copied them due to their patent and also no one has figured out how they do it even with reverse engineering. Many people until they try a medium cold cryosauna or even a not so cold cryosauna like the Artic. The Juka even at 50 degrees warmer than the coldest still feels colder. (Most of the coldest ones I have been in if they had the cloud density of the Juka would cause me frost bit severely during my 3 minute session.
Note: any cryosauna or cryochamber below -240C is overkill and not any more effective and exposes people to excessive cold and increases the potential for frostbite. The cheapest cryosauna actually gets the coldest but the nitrogen delivery is so uneven.
I judge a cryosauna first by its cloud density. People are paying top dollar for their session and only getting 1/2 the cloud density that they need. No wonder people complain about getting no benefit from their session. It might be -300 degrees but with a cloud density that is totally bunk. The highest density cloud is what triggers a stronger and more therapeutic response which many cryosauna clinics don't know because they haven't tried all the brands. I urge people to use the Juka as the control as far as fluence and try out a super super cold cryosauna that has a low cloud density. Their delivery system is so secretive that no one has figured out how Juka does it. In Europe where more are sold than in the USA right now the Juka cryosauna is the only one that is a class 3 medical device. All others are not there. In the states the FDA governs it differently and none are a class 3.
What is the advantage of a cryosauna that is cooled by nitrogen and no nitrogen touches you?
Well, most of the cryo chambers are electric. The only one that is cooled by nitrogen is the Artic cryochamber. It is much more expensive than any direct nitrogen cryosauna. The Artic is the mildest chamber (-220C) and is very tolerable. It does trigger the fight or flight response. Those that try a session in an Artic Cryochamber usually will not want to go back into a direct nitrogen type again.
I personally after getting out of the non-direct nitrogen Artic type feel the high that I feel it is extended to another level. It's a a stronger high and much different and lasts way longe, even than a Juka high. Most chiropractors buy the type that submerges the head and neck as it's similar to their mindset to their normal therapy on how they treat their patients. They buy the direct nitrogen types but only when the therapy is the most important consideration. A Juka cryosauna, for example, the high lasts just over an hour for most people. The Artic can last a couple of hours for almost everyone that uses it. The Artic buzz is similar but very different than a Juka buzz but a personal decision. I urge anyone starting a cryosauna clinic to sample each of these extremes.
Is there a way to get a cryosauna /cryochamber cheaper than the list price?
Well, there are about 5 things that increase the price but getting a good deal on a cryosauna or cryo chamber is another issue. I always tell people to get at least 3 quotes from cryosauna dealers (If someone has a certain brand they want, I know all the USA dealers because I work with most of them). The list price (retail price that everyone gets quoted first on the phone) is rarely what people pay for these. Some cryosauna clinics don't need to pay for installation as they can do it themselves. (note: the warranty can voided if not installed by a certified dealer). Also, training is also added in the retail price. Some clinics don't need to pay several thousand dollars extra for this training and for someone to fly down and pay their travel and hotel expense. Another things that adds to the cryosauna or cryochamber price is shipping. I hate when they say shipping is included. So, if it is shipping from Dallas Texas to Tennessee it costs 1/3 of the price it would if it was shipped to California. So, I want at least 1000 dollars off my dealer cost when I sell one of these closer to the manufacturer. (Most of mine ship out of Dallas and Georgia). It costs around 4,000 to ship one from Europe where most are shipped from (air shipped). If companies use the 45 day shipping which it takes for shipping on a ship, usually the cryosaunas can get dinged around. If someone doesn't mind scratches and dents and wants to take a chance with the 45 day deliver instead of air shipping (air shipping of a cryosauna takes about a little over a week) then it can save money. It's half the price to ship it the slow way. Many people don't mind waiting 45 days to save 2000 dollars just for the wait.
Notice: I urge cryosauna clinics to use their own shipping company when cryosauna or cryochamber companies offer free shipping.
Another thing that adds to my dealer price on a cryosauna is the warranty. Some companies offer a 2 year warranty and and some even have a 3 year warranty. The longest standard warranty is 2 years and the additional third year can cost $2000, and $2500 if a 4th year warranty is needed, and it usually costs $3000 for a 5th year and can be bought during the end of the normal 2 year warranty period.
Those with a 3 year warranty that I have reviewed are usually the really cheap ones. The big player brands usually have a 2 year warranty. The ones with a 1 year warranty often cost less but if someone doesn't want any warranty, this save the manufacturer their estimated expense of replacement parts. If someone is really going to take care of their cryosauna, it probably won't need to get fixed during that 2 year period anyway. Usually it's the 4 to 5 year mark when things start failing with normal wear and tear.
For high traffic clinics I urge owners to keep the warranty and for super high traffic clinics to get the extended warrranty beyond 2 years, it will save most clinics money in the end. Temperature sensors and relays and mostly electrical stuff is the stuff that usually goes wrong after the 2nd year. Some of the most popular warranty claims I've gotten calls about are motherboards that shut off the entire cryosauna, sensors that sense the temperature, and mostly it's the sensor problem with relays the 2nd most popular warranty claim. The electrical lifts usually last about 4 to 5 years (the lift motors) and these can cost only 700 to replace the lift motor so if everything else is well taken care of there is no need to buy an extended warranty for that.
Another question I get.....
Some companies tell me to not get a cryosauna or cryochamber that is 110 volt, they say to only get a 220 volt. What is the difference?
Ok, so 220V provides more power and is more reliable and the motors last longer. These are heavier duty. The Juka and Cryomed are 220 volt, Titan is 110V and also Impact is 110V. Cryosense is 220. Artic is 220.
What temperature is needed to get to that fight or flight response that I keep hearing about and what brands only give hormonal stimulation and that's it?
Answer: There needs to be at least a temperature of -120C for 90 seconds minimum. Optimum cryotherapy is delivered at -140c for 3 minutes. I do this twice a day (at least 4 hours apart to allow my vascular system to come back to normal level so I can recover. When my friends use it once a day and my other friends that are super hardcore about fitness use it twice a day, my MMA friends notice way more recovery and can go back to our nightly session much quicker. Usually we get all beaten up and have take more days off longer than when we use it once a day.
Question: I heard that some companies have a hard time getting replacement parts. Which companies will ship out a replacement right away so I don't have to shut down my business?
The cryosauna companies that I have the biggest problems with out of stock parts are usually the no name brands and brands that I never heard of. The companies that usually ship next day the broken part are the ones that have the most cryosaunas out on the market. Like Impact and Juka which are the most widely distributed brands always have parts and both companies are very good with their warranties.
Question: Why do some cryosaunas have a higher burn potential and others don't? Are the ones that have this high burn potential the really good ones but all is needed is knowing how to use them?
Best answer to this question...The ones that skip the heat exchange process usually have this and do not have a safety turbine built into the cryosauna. This turbine prevents the accidental nitrogen on a client. Not all cryosaunas have these turbines. The eastern European brands (like Juka and cryomed) have more safety features built into their machines out of all the machines I've reviewed.
The heat exchanger is tied into the turbine and many of the cheaper cryosaunas don't have these. Also having many dehumidifiers in the room can help increase the effectiveness of the therapy and can help lower the chances of getting burned. The best cryo clinics have such dry air that if I stayed in them long enough my nose would dry out and bleed.
Why does it mean by inconsistent cryotherapy delivery. Doesn't the nitrogen have contact with the whole body?
Some of the cryosaunas I've been in do not cover my entire body evenly and after going to different clinics I know which brands I like and which I think are bunk. I consider those that have inconsistent nitrogen delivery are the ones that I have to constantly rotate while in my session. The Juka and Artic brands for example, don't require the person to constantly rotate as they have even delivery. Brands that I have to constantly rotate run a risk of uneven distribution of cold on the body. I do not like getting frostbit. Once that happens to a person, they usually look elsewhere to get their cryotherapy treatments. If clinics are going to use the type that people have to rotate, I urge those looking to buy a cryosauna to try both types out.
Remember, there is no need to treat someone at temperatures colder than -140c. The lower temperature models give unnecessary risk of getting frostbite. Burn potential and cryosaunas with enough cloud density is the main thing I consider and then all the other stuff, like even cooling and which bells and whistles they have are secondary. So many salespeople first try to convince me to buy their cryosauna or cryochamber and try to sell me on their bells and whistles as their first pitch. I am not an idiot and am not a little boy. Don't try to spook me if I don't buy your cryosauna I am going to have problem with the other brands. I am tired of the bullshit and this is why I had to make this site. Once informed on real information it is hard to buy the wrong brand.
